The episode mostly covers this shift from anarchist jesus to platonic christianty. The next episode, which I haven't listened to yet, circles back on and focuses on anarchist jesus, you might get more mileage out of it!

I was baptized and stuff, but I was shocked when (way later than I would care to admit in public or even in private) I discovered that the places in the New Testament were REAL and not just a fantasy place, because I was living in a society that was so rejectionary of the Catholic Church, we were all like "what is this fake stuff". I wish I had cared more though because Jesus was cool.