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Chantal Hébert on the same-sex marriage vote:

Still, Harper has earned a place in the history books for his efforts this week.
Harper became the first post-war Prime Minister to ask the Commons to consider taking away the rights of a Canadian minority.

She doesn't chew words on Dion either:
Over the course of his leadership campaign, Dion had argued that the Liberal approach of allowing rights to be subject to free votes was unacceptable.

But faced this week with a choice between backing off and enduring the first internal crisis of his short leadership tenure, Dion opted to once again leave his members free to choose, explaining that a motion did not require the same dose of party discipline as a full-fledged piece of legislation.
Under Dion's two predecessors, a federal party that takes pride of ownership of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms has treated it like a pull-down menu, allowing its MPs to pick and choose where they stood on gay rights.

Date: 2006-12-09 05:01 am (UTC)
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This seems to be the one (?) issue where Hebert consistently drops her detached sportscaster approach and really talks about actual ethical standards as opposed to political realities. Good for her.

Date: 2006-12-09 05:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Yeah. Here at Sietch Tabr we suspect that she's a dyke, which would explain the exclusive enthusiasm for this issue.

I need a queer icon.

Date: 2006-12-09 06:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
> I need a queer icon.

Indeed you do. I'm surprised you don't yet have one.

Date: 2006-12-09 07:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
There's an icon going around of Pat Robertson with a hot pink frame, rainbow background and, his eyes and the words "sexxxy" in hot pink as well. But it's not quite there yet.

Dion letting his cabinet vote freely

Date: 2006-12-09 07:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
It was an impossible situation for him, politically. If he had forced his cabinet to vote against the measure he would have given Harper ammunition to keep the issue alive, and to claim the Liberals are anti-democratic. At least Dion made it clear that, if there were a later vote to actually remove SSM, he would be cracking the whip.

Re: Dion letting his cabinet vote freely

Date: 2006-12-09 07:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Most of those voting for the motion for the Liberals were nobodies. I don't think he would have lost much leadership from this, and he would have differentiated himself from Martin and Chrétien on this question. (Although in his favour, I must say that Chrétien fought off many riding takeover attempts by "Liberals for Life" by parachuting candidates in those ridings before. Totally undemocratic, and he was probably more concerned about party cohesion than actual moral stands, but still.)

The NDP and the Bloc whipped it, where the Bloc hadn't whipped it before and 6 members had voted against SSM. The NDP lost a riding when they whipped it last time: Bev Desjarlais was allowed to stay in caucus for voting against the bill, but then she lost the NDP nomination for the following election, so she ran as independent and split the vote, allowing the Liberal to come ahead.

So in short I agree with the "impossible" descriptor you used. :] But it was sure practical, knowing that it would get defeated anyway.

Re: Dion letting his cabinet vote freely

Date: 2006-12-09 07:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
That's "disagree". Doink.

Date: 2006-12-09 05:21 pm (UTC)
ext_65558: The one true path (Lesbian Porn!)
From: [identity profile]
Happy birthday!

Date: 2006-12-09 07:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Thanks! :]


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